FAmSCo in F20 Term

Yesterday, we had the last FAmSCo meeting with the old set of members and it was effectively our last meeting in the F20 term. So I suppose it’s the right time to report how FAmSCo was working in the just ended term. Here are some stats:

Number of meetings: 31 (only 2 were cancelled due to Flock and Christmas holidays)Average attendance: 5.1 / 7 members (we didn’t reach quorum of 4 members in only one occasion)
Total number of topics discussed: 125 (4 per meeting)

Activity of members by number of meetings attended:

  1. Alejandro Perez 30
  2. Jiří Eischmann 25
  3. Robert Mayr 24
  4. Luis Bazán 24
  5. Truong Anh Tuan 21
  6. Christoph Wickert 20
  7. Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera 9

As you can see Alejandro was again the ironman of FAmSCo in the last term, missing just one meeting. He will be missed in FAmSCo.

Activity of members by numbers of messages posted:

  1. Jiří Eischmann 1781 (71 per meeting)
  2. Christoph Wickert 1049 (52)
  3. Truong Anh Tuan 841 (40)
  4. Alejandro Perez 759 (25)
  5. Robert Mayr 570 (24)
  6. Luis Bazán 265 (11)
  7. Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera 74 (8)

The highest number of messages posted for me is no surprise considering I chaired most of the meetings.

I’d like to note that this post is not meant to be a judgement of FAmSCo member’s contributions. It’s far more complex. But it’s nice to see that FAmSCo is active and we meet, discuss and make decisions regularly.

I’d like to thank the members that are leaving FAmSCo, especially Alejandro who served as the vice-chair in the last term and missed almost no meeting during his one and half year in FAmSCo. I’m very much looking forward to new members: Neville A. Cross and Jon Disnard. Both are a long-term contributors who have been very active in the regional communities. I’m also glad that all regions have representatives in FAmSCo again. That’s a very important thing for the communication between FAmSCo and the regions.

Fedora, GNOME, Linux

What Desktop Environments Are Czech Fedora Users Using in 2013?

Last year, I published stats of what desktop environments Czech Fedora users are using. The data came from a survey which was done by the most popular Czech Linux magazine Root.cz. They did the survey again this year and made all the data available. By running queries on this data, you can actually do interesting statistics. But first the most important outcome of the survey: popularities of Linux distributions among Czech desktop users:

2013: Ubuntu 58.1%, Debian 26.8%, Fedora 16.9%, Mint 16.3%, Arch 10.1%, openSUSE 9.7%, Gentoo 6.9%, RHEL 3.8%, Mageia 2.5%, Slackware 2.3%, Mandriva 2.2%, Sabayon 1.4%, PCLinuxOS 0.8%, SLED 0.4%, others 7.1%

Last year (2012): Ubuntu 53%, Debian 17%, Fedora 12%, Mint 10%, Arch 9.5%, opensuse 9.5%, Gentoo 6.7%, Mandriva 1.8%,…

Source: root.cz

As you can see, Fedora remains the third most popular distribution after Ubuntu and Debian. The first four distributions have gained, but partly only optically because users could choose more distributions and apparently they were a bit more “promiscuous” than in the last year. For example, Ubuntu got 58.1% which is more than the last year, but it’s just 35% of the sum of all shares while it was 44% last year. DEB vs RPM is 101.2% vs 36.5% which is a better ratio than the last year’s: 80 vs 22.4%.

And now to the desktop stats. Popularity of desktop environments among Fedora users has always been a hot topic. We don’t really track what packages users are using, so no one really knows. The data from the survey surely don’t reflect the reality 100%. The survey was done among Czech users and doesn’t cover users “who don’t care” (like our moms, dads, grandparents who use Linux, but don’t read any Linux magazines or participate in surveys). On the other hand, users “who care” are interesting the most to us and 4745 users participated which is a large statistical sample. The stats from the last year can be found here. Unfortunately, they’re not very comparable with this year’s numbers because this year users could choose more than one desktop, last year they couldn’t.

fedora-desktops-2013The chart above shows popularities among all Fedora users including those who indicated that they were using other distributions, too. That’s why Unity has a significant share although it’s not even available for Fedora. It’s interesting to compare it with answers that come from users who use just Fedora, not any other distribution (die hards 🙂 ). They were approx. 1/3 of all Fedora users.

desktop-fedora-ubuntuLike last year, I compared it with Ubuntu numbers (also users who only use Ubuntu). As you can see, GNOME 3 stands out even more and achieve a number that is close to the share from the last year when users could only choose one desktop. KDE 4 is around 25%. Xfce has apparently gained some share among both broader and core Fedora user base. GNOME 2/MATE still has its user base, somewhere below 10% (similar to the last year’s numbers). LXDE has also gained a bit, but it’s apparently much more popular on Ubuntu than on Fedora. As you can see, Unity got completely filtered out which makes sense because if it’s not available for Fedora it can be hardly used by Fedora-only users. Cinnamon is also significantly more popular among users who use Fedora just as one of their distributions. Apparently, who wants Cinnamon, goes for Linux Mint because it doesn’t have a large share among Ubuntu users as well (BTW it has a 59% share among Mint-only users).

I will bring some more stats when I find time again. For example how Fedora market share changes with the age of users or their experience.

Fedora, Linux, Red Hat

Another distro popularity polls

Last summer, I published results of survey organized by the biggest Czech Linux portal where Fedora was the 3rd most popular Linux distribution. Today, the second biggest Czech Linux portal ABCLinuxu.cz published results of a very similar survey. Shares are slightly different, but Fedora was again the 3rd most popular distribution. The TOP10 is:

  1. Ubuntu 37.09% (53)
  2. Debian 18.78% (17)
  3. Fedora 18.39% (12)
  4. Linux Mint 14.03% (10)
  5. Arch 13.36% (9.5)
  6. (open)SUSE 11% (7.4)
  7. Gentoo 8.68% (6.7)
  8. Mageia 2.51% (<2)
  9. Slackware 2.20% (<2)
  10. Mandriva 1.18% (<2)

The number in brackets indicates shares from the survey done by the other portal in summer. Shares are slightly different, but order on the first seven positions is the same and there are the same distributions in TOP10. The other portal – root.cz – is read by broader audience while ABCLinuxu.cz has more die-hard Linux fans among their readers. You can see that Ubuntu has a much larger share outside the core Linux user base. On the other hand, at least in the Czech Republic, it has lost some core Linux user base because in 2010, Ubuntu had 44.3% in the same survey. Over 18% for Fedora is a good result. It’s definitely on the rise in the Czech Republic which is not such a big surprise because we promote Fedora quite a lot and the largest engineering office of Red Hat also has some impact.

What’s interesting is distro popularity among groups of people with different length of Linux experience:

As you can see, Ubuntu is very popular among Linux newbies. Almost 60 percent of them choose Ubuntu to be their first Linux experience. Quite surprisingly to me, Fedora is the second most popular distro among newbies. Fedora has pretty much the same popularity through all groups, but it’s especially popular among newbies and then among people with >15 years of Linux experience. I suppose those are mainly users that started with Red Hat Linux.

There were also other categories:

Server: Debian 50.92%, CentOS 23.61%, Ubuntu 16.22%, RHEL 13.79%, Gentoo 8.87%, (open)SUSE 7.24%, Fedora 5.55%, Arch 4.81%, Slackware 3.33%. So Fedora is much less popular on servers.

Enteprise: RHEL 75.68%, SUSE 22.77%, Oracle 4.94%, Mandriva 1.55%. RHEL is dominating this category.

The survey also showed that the Linux user base is getting older. 43% of people who participated in the survey are over 30 and only 25% of them are students.

Fedora, GNOME, Linux

What Desktop Environments Are Czech Fedora Users Using?

Yesterday, I posted results of a survey to find out what distributions and desktop environments Linux users are using. Today, I asked the editor-in-chief of Root.cz for figures solely for Fedora to find out what desktop environments Czech users of Fedora are using. Here are the results (and comparison with figures for Ubuntu from the same survey):

Fedora: GNOME 3 – 45.8%, KDE 4 26.5%, Xfce 12.4 %, GNOME 2 8 %, LXDE 1.8%, KDE 3/Trinity 0.6%, Others – 4.9%. Ubuntu: Unity – 29.8%, GNOME 3 – 20.5%, GNOME 2 – 17.5%, KDE 4 – 14.9%, Xfce – 9.9%, LXDE – 3.8%, KDE 3/Trinity – 0.5%, Others – 3.7%. GNOME 2 also includes GNOME 3 Fallback, MATE.

And some findings:

  • Adoption of GNOME 3 among Fedora users is not bad at all. Almost half of them is already using GNOME 3. Xfce didn’t gain much ground and GNOME 2/Mate is quite low. Ubuntu is apparently struggling more with adoption of their new default environment – Unity. Less than 30 % of its users are using it and the number of users with GNOME 2 is high compared to Fedora.
  •  KDE 4 is very popular among Fedora users. Over 25 % is a really decent job for an environment that is not default. It proves that our KDE SIG is doing a great job. They have always had to fight the widespread opinion that Fedora is a GNOME distro and not very KDE-friendly. Those figures show they are doing great at it and I have a feedback from the community that KDE in Fedora is really well supported. In Ubuntu, KDE is not so popular according to these stats.
  • I expected Xfce to be more popular in Fedora than the stats show. There have been many people loudly saying that they are switching to Xfce because of GNOME 3. This has probably been a bit exaggerated, at least in the Czech Republic. But still: Xfce is more popular among Fedora users than among Ubuntu users.
  • KDE 3/Trinity is pretty much dead. Again, I’ve heard many people saying that they stick with KDE 3 and don’t want to switch to KDE 4, but in fact, almost no one is using it today. It may be a message for MATE developers that stopping time is not a viable vision for a desktop environment. Most users just get used to new generations of DEs, or switch to something else, but don’t stick with old generations.
  • Unity is still an Ubuntu-only thing. Unity was recently ported to Fedora, or more precisely there is a third-party repository with Unity for Fedora, but Unity didn’t get a single vote from Fedora users in this survey. Maybe it’s too early, we’ll see later.
Fedora, GNOME, Linux, Red Hat

User Bases of Linux Distributions in the Czech Republic

The biggest Czech Linux magazine Root.cz organized a survey to find out what distributions Linux users are using on desktops. There were 4423 answers which I think is quite a lot from statistical point of view. And here are the results:

I expected Ubuntu to have the largest user base. But still, such dominance is surprising. Over 50% of all Linux users are using Ubuntu. It’s pretty much Ubuntu… and the rest. And what about Deb vs. RPM? 80% vs 22.4% (note that the total is over 100% because there are users using multiple distributions). It’s even more horrifying. RHEL/CentOS weren’t included, but I don’t think they have a large user base on desktops and their share can’t be bigger than 8% because that’s what “Other distributions” got.

Fedora is doing the best (12%) in the world outside Ubuntu/Debian because we have a quite living Fedora community here and there is a large engineering office of Red Hat which has some impact, too. But face the truth: In terms of user base, Fedora is doing very bad compared to Ubuntu. What can we do about it? Because if we lose user base we will eventually lose contributors, too.

Other distributions with traditionally large user base are doing even worse: openSUSE has only 7.4% and Mandriva, which used to be the most popular desktop distro in the Czech Republic, is pretty much dead – <2%. And users didn’t run to Mageia because Mageia has even less users.

Another interesting results are shares of desktop environments:

 A very interesting finding is that GNOME 3 is actually more popular than Unity (19.7% vs 13.6%) which is the default environment in the far most popular distribution – Ubuntu. In fact, only 1/4 of Ubuntu users are using Unity according to the stats. GNOME 3 is also more popular than GNOME 2/MATE (16.5%), so looks like it’s not that bad with popularity of GNOME 3. GNOME-based vs KDE-based environment: 49.8% vs 24.5%. KDE 3/Trinity has less than 1%, so stopping time doesn’t seem to be very appealing to users.